The Political Thread

[Chris]

I can go to my hometown and tell people "I don't think you should be Christian, it's a disease, let's talk about it" and I don't think we'd reach much compromise there either

 

[Tremendez]

If Charlie Kirk was the only hope of Republicans reaching out to the other side then that party is in worse shape than I even thought

I don’t even disagree with you. I think more people should be doing that, but he was one of the primary people doing it.

 

[Chris]

Let’s keep it 100. If David Hogg was assassinated tomorrow and I came on here and I celebrated it because he was against the second amendment and I didn’t like that and I thought that his death was some kind of positive imperative for the country y’all would be coming for my head.

bc I would be surprised you like guns as much as grim likes trans people. It's hard to make these comparisons when one side wants to ban actual people isn't it

 

[Roy Mustang]

If Charlie Kirk was the only hope of Republicans reaching out to the other side then that party is in worse shape than I even thought

Yeah Smark acting like he is middle of the road is one of the funniest things I've seen today and I've seen that

I don’t even disagree with you. I think more people should be doing that, but he was one of the primary people doing it.

No he wasn't. Not even remotely. This is what I mean.

The problem with stuff like this is honestly that if you are okay with people being shot for what they believe, is on the other side of the isle they will be people who could and have killed people on the left for what they think. It's just going to make things worse, and make more violence, which we already have enough of. I didn't like him, and I seen his videos pop up and I would watch, and he said hateful things yeah, so I completely understand not liking him, hating him even. But as a country we have to be better than this, and I'm scared of seeing things get worse.

In my honest point of view, this is what happens when you don't punish people for storming a capital because they didn't like an election result. That basically will signal to some people on both sides, yeah political violence is OK.

 

[Chris]

Yeah Smark acting like he is middle of the road is one of the funniest things I've seen today and I've seen that No he wasn't. Not even remotely. This is what I mean. In my honest point of view, this is what happens when you don't punish people for storming a capital because they didn't like an election result. That basically will signal to some people on both sides, yeah political violence is OK.

they were punished like they should have been at first but then the guy they tried to overthrow the country for pardoned them, crazy

 

[Chris]

Is there a prominent Democrat waging any sort of issue with religion? That's the only guy or gal I would imagine would get the same reaction if they died that a transphobe would for libs. Not guns, but other people are the proper comparison if you want to make one

 

[Roy Mustang]

they were punished like they should have been at first but then the guy they tried to overthrow the country for pardoned them, crazy

Exactly and it basically signalled to people, what they did was OK. You can commit violence if you don't like the politics of the other side. And btw who was one of the main people promoting the election fraud stuff? Oh yeah it was Charlie Krik. Actions have consequences and this is the consequences of saying political violence is OK. Should someone shoot him over being a vile piece of shit? No but I feel no sympathy when there was a literal school shooting today as well. I'll save it for them

 

[Just Juice]

Charlie was by no means middle of the pack. Once upon a time when I was right off-centre I would still have not seen him as a middle man. Celebrating a death of a civilian, irrespective of their character is quite a sad way to live. This debate isn't going anywhere positive.

 

[Barry Poppins]

Let’s keep it 100. If David Hogg was assassinated tomorrow and I came on here and I celebrated it because he was against the second amendment and I didn’t like that and I thought that his death was some kind of positive imperative for the country y’all would be coming for my head.

This is... Smark, my dude, I love you but this is a horrible comparison, and I hope after a little reflection you realize that too.

Guns are not equal to the livelihoods and freedoms of living people, even in spite of what the Constitution says.

You would have had something if you said a militant atheist who believed that Catholics should be killed en masse had died but man.

 

[Tremendez]

And you keep avoiding mine. Sorry am I meant have a list to hand of every political commentator? Sure go on, someone I hate and disagree with regularly: Piers Morgan. He's right wing and an asshole but I would condemn his death

Your point was that he wasn’t middle of the pack, simply describing his opinions doesn’t prove that point you’d have to tell me political commentators that you thought were better than him so I asked you for an example which would have proved both of our points. I’ll be honest I don’t know enough about Piers Morgan because he’s not an American conservative political commentator but I’ll take your word for it. I thought I saw some videos of his where he took some pretty liberal talking points but again I don’t know enough about him because I don’t know much about UK conservative politics. My point was that if I named 25 of the most prominent conservative, American political commentators I don’t think you would put many of them above Charlie Kirk. I honestly think you would put most of them below Charlie Kirk as far as being more radical than Charlie Kirk. Candace Owens for example or Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos.

Anyways, we’re not getting anywhere because regardless, even if he was at the top of the worst like I would say Jake shields is probably the worst far right political commentator, I would not celebrate his death even though he is an abhorrent Nazi motherfucker.

 

[O-Blaze]

In my honest point of view, this is what happens when you don't punish people for storming a capital because they didn't like an election result. That basically will signal to some people on both sides, yeah political violence is OK.

And I don't disagree with that. Which only helps back up what I was saying tbh. Things keep getting worse and worse. I'm just worried we're getting to a point of no return, and I don't want that. I don't want to worry about more and more of this happening from both sides. The deeper down the hole we go, the darker its going to get.

 

[Chris]

I think we should make a rule that anytime someone uses the phrase "different options" they have to state what the opinions they're referring to are

 

[Chris]

And I don't disagree with that. Which only helps back up what I was saying tbh. Things keep getting worse and worse. I'm just worried we're getting to a point of no return, and I don't want that. I don't want to worry about more and more of this happening from both sides. The deeper down the hole we go, the darker its going to get.

I think we've been past it. Trump literally got shot last year, multiple congresspeople killed this year. This isn't crossing the point of no return, it's way on the other side

 

[Roy Mustang]

Your point was that he wasn’t middle of the pack, simply describing his opinions doesn’t prove that point you’d have to tell me political commentators that you thought were better than him so I asked you for an example which would have proved both of our points. I’ll be honest I don’t know enough about Piers Morgan because he’s not an American conservative political commentator but I’ll take your word for it. I thought I saw some videos of his where he took some pretty liberal talking points but again I don’t know enough about him because I don’t know much about UK conservative politics. My point was that if I named 25 of the most prominent conservative, American political commentators I don’t think you would put many of them above Charlie Kirk. I honestly think you would put most of them below Charlie Kirk as far as being more radical than Charlie Kirk. Candace Owens for example or Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos.

Anyways, we’re not getting anywhere because regardless, even if he was at the top of the worst like I would say Jake shields is probably the worst far right political commentator, I would not celebrate his death even though he is an abhorrent Nazi motherfucker.

Yeah those 3 are some how worse which proves my point on how far stuff has gone thanks to people like Charlie (and honestly I could actually see myself cheering Alex Jones dying rather than not having sympathy. Guy is abhorrent for what he did to parents of the Sandy Hook shooting). My point was you white washing him and acting like he was someone who was just trying to debate when he wasn't

And I don't disagree with that. Which only helps back up what I was saying tbh. Things keep getting worse and worse. I'm just worried we're getting to a point of no return, and I don't want that. I don't want to worry about more and more of this happening from both sides. The deeper down the hole we go, the darker its going to get.

The sad part is it is only going to get worse with Trump in the White house and people having their rights taken away. If you are taking people's rights away, what do they have to lose? Sadly it is only going to get worse on both sides

 

[O-Blaze]

I think we've been past it. Trump literally got shot last year, multiple congresspeople killed this year. This isn't crossing the point of no return, it's way on the other side

Yeah sadly that's true. Just so much violence that's politically motivated. We sadly yeah do seem past the point of no return, out of gas and no gas station within miles to turn it back around.